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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2010, 11:16:32 AM » |
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Basically you go for what you feel good with, try different things and see what you like, I think I've done minor respec changes about 10-15 times, but I'm pretty happy with what I have right now.
If I were you I wouldn't put so many points in reckoning, I found that even with 5 points in it I barely do 3% of my damage with it, and only 2 points like I have now is basically the same. For 5 man you actually don't need all the mitigation you can get, it is pretty weird but you can actually tank decenlty with a 2H weapon and ret spec, you still want 51 points in prot so spend them wisely, the 20 rest you can put to best use in ret tree I think. I personally like crusade.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 09:13:19 AM » |
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you will want minor glyph of sense undead also, 1% more damage to undead doesnt seem like much but almost all mobs these days are undead.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 12:05:53 PM » |
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I never understood what [Glyph of Shield of Righteousness] was good for, the mana cost is so low anyway. I think the only skill that would be useful to have that kind of mana cost reduction on is Concecration. [Glyph of Holy Wrath] is awesome, there are so many places with loads of undead to just blast away constantly that makes this so much fun, take UP, OK and AN (UK?) to start with, ToC Black Knight encounter, then FoS, PoS and HoS, and finally if you ever do Naxx and when you rep run in ICC, am I missing something? Yes stratholme too of course. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 01:16:25 PM » |
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Ok ... i've read it bad ... i thought that [Glyph of the Wise] reduced the cost of judgement of wisdom. my bad ... i think i'm needing a new pair of glasses |
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 11:19:30 PM » |
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ROFLMAO respecced my ret to aoe trash build since I don't go ret anymore.  |
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2010, 01:01:13 PM » |
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Steve, pls link your ret build, Im really struggling to get my dps up.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 01:36:17 PM » |
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That's my aoe trash spec. My ret build wasn't to much different than the normal and I haven't gone ret in months.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2010, 11:49:24 PM » |
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Was it you tanking or did you just help out as dps?
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 01:30:55 AM » |
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That was tanking one of the valks in 25 ICC.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2010, 02:31:08 PM » |
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Out of curiosity, why bring in Seal of Command? I'm working on my re-spec today myself, at level 71, have been Tanking awhile now, but looking to see if I can bring myself any help, lol... Looking at Seal of Command and Seal of Vengeance, it seems to me that SoV is the better choice... And if so, then why bother with Seal of Command? Also I rarely see anyone putting points into Stoicism... What is your thinking on that, since you obviously did... lol... Still trying to learn... |
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2010, 04:36:06 PM » |
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Hits 3 targets. Basically you have a cleave on every attack and SoR.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2010, 09:24:12 PM » |
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Hits 3 targets. Basically you have a cleave on every attack and SoR.
I have to say that sounds like a VERY good reason to use Seal of Command as the primary seal instead of Seal of Vengeance. SoV seems to be the better choice when facing a boss, due to the increased single target damage (and, therefore, threat) but for trash mobs I would definitely argue that SoC works better since it makes ALL of your attacks multi-target. |
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2010, 09:27:14 PM » |
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Hits 3 targets. Basically you have a cleave on every attack and SoR.
I have to say that sounds like a VERY good reason to use Seal of Command as the primary seal instead of Seal of Vengeance. SoV seems to be the better choice when facing a boss, due to the increased single target damage (and, therefore, threat) but for trash mobs I would definitely argue that SoC works better since it makes ALL of your attacks multi-target. correct |
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2010, 06:05:39 AM » |
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Hi there
SoC was already explained
stoicism ... i'm using it because i had talents to spent and why not try getting less 30% stun time i think it might be usefull. some bosses and mobs have stun habilities.
I'm not an expert, i started tanking few weeks ago and this is not a perfect build (there's no perfect builds) the best build its the one u get more confortable tanking.
I'm just trying to find the best build for me.
And all sugestions are welcome
regards
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2010, 10:05:32 AM » |
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Generally main target is not stunned, so it's not really a tanking talent actually. There are exceptions of course but so few that it isn't really worth it, there are simply too many other things that are better where you can spend your points. I think stoicism would be more of a PVP talent.
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2010, 01:02:28 PM » |
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I'm going to take the 3 point in stoicism and put them on conviction.
how about reckoning? it worth spend some points?
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2010, 11:55:02 PM » |
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how about reckoning? it worth spend some points?
Two or three points at most, I used to keep 5 points in it for my HC build but I found I only had about 2% of my damage from reckoning. I saw some other players here only used 3 points so I tried it out, with only 2 actually, and actually I still have about 2% of my damage from reckoning, basically it didn't make any difference if I had 5 or 2 points. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2010, 07:15:13 AM » |
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Thanks all for hellping
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